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February 16 2007 @ 11:15 am
So I need to know about MP3 Players...  

Okay so here is the problem. I read all the information about the MP3 players and I know how good or bad they sound, but I thought I'd rather know about those you all have.

I don't know which is better hard drive or flash drive?

Now part of my problem is that I have one that originally I was okay with (but I want to upgrade). I started listening to the Harry Potter Books on MP3 and if I accidently hit the next button then it is impossible to get to the part I was at. My MP3 player doesn't fast forward very well. This means when I was listening to the 26 hours of Goblet of Fire and the damn thing skipped when I was at the 24 hour mark... I had to listen to it on the computer because I couldn't fast forward to where I was. I mean I could have but it would have taken me hours of holding down that little fast forward button. So I need something that rewinds and fast forwards without issues.

Also, I'm not that keen on the IPods but and willing to listen to praise or put downs about them... any help would be much appreciated.

Also something very important to me is that it has a rechargable battery. I don't want to be replacing AA batteries or AAA batteries. I don't mind if the rechargable battery will need to be replaced eventually (like in a year or two) but I have one that I just plug in to charge the batter and I love that (despite its evilness when FFing).

I would also love to know if your MP3 Player has any other special features such as radio, voice recorder, video capabilities etc. These things aren't as important to me but it would be nice to know for the buying process.


Larian: iRu by melarianelensar on February 16th, 2007 08:06 pm (UTC)
(Love the colors you're using for your layout!!)

I LOVE LOVE LOVE my iPod. You can easily fast forward or rewind on it. If you get the fifth gen video, you can watch movies, music vids, or tv shows (and it's not so bad watching on that little screen, really!) You can organize the playlists however you want, it has a rechargeable battery (that's good for 3-4 or more hours of video, and lots more music, I'm sure).

You can buy a simple adapter to plug it into your car's cigarette lighter and listen to the music from your ipod on your car radio/stereo. You can get music just about anywhere (file sharing online, or at any of the file purchasing places like iTunes or napster...)

The ipod is slim and compact, has a large variety of cases and options to carry it around. I don't like the ear buds, but you can use regular head phones, or get other earbuds if you want. The ipod can be hooked up to your tv so you can watch the movies from it on tv (if you get the video ipod and some inexpensive cables off of ebay) ... You can also get an adpater so the ipod plugs into speakers so you can use it in your home like a stereo.

There's a function to be able to share your iTunes library with other users, but I'm not sure how that works, as I've never tried it.

I am slowly moving all my cds to electronic version (oh, and iTunes makes it very easy to transfer from cd to the ipod and burn from computer to cd too...) I don't plan on ever buying another cd again. (I mean, why pay 10-12 bucks for a whole cd when I can get just the songs I want from iTunes for a buck?) Movies are cheaper too. No 19 bucks for a dvd, instead, 10 bucks for the electronic version.

If you do decide on an iPod, I'd go for the biggest one you can, you won't regret it, really. (They have 80GB video ones for 300-400 US dollars) The 30 GB is not that much, but once you start using it...you might want the extra space.

(and yes, my icon is my ipod in it's case!)
Jill aka Jo: LFN- huh?sireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC)
Thank you. It took a lot of work but I finally have my layout how I want it (for now-lol).

I'm not all that into videos on my IPod... I mean I'd rather not spend all much money buying videos and movies. I don't usually spend that much buying songs because I usually take them from the cheap cds I buy. Also, I've had trouble finding songs and trouble with them always being WMAs.

Now a friend of mine also has an IPod and she said she had to plug her Ipod into her computer to charge it. Is that true or has she just not purchased the wall adapter.

She also told me that when she plugs her ipod into her computer, if the songs on her ipod are not still on her computer they will erase. Is this something you've encountered?

I don't like earbuds either. Studies have actually said earbuds harm your hearing where they others don't.

I can't spend $300-$400. That is way too much. I also seriously doubt I would even need 30GB. I mean I have my older version and it is only 2GB. You've already read about my problems with that one but the other is I couldn't fit all the Harry Potter books on it... which wasn't that big of a deal. I mean... if a 30GB one isn't that expensive I'd probably go for that but I don't buy a ton of songs or videos so I really don't think I need something huge.

Besides when it comes to Ipod... I can't help but think that if I waited a bit then they'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper later. I don't know.

I've always been under the impression that IPods where compatible with much... am I wrong?
Larianlarianelensar on February 16th, 2007 10:18 pm (UTC)
There are other ipods that are much less expensive, and hold a lot of songs or audio books...

No, it's not true that the songs on the ipod are erased if they're not on the computer---if you don't sync the ipod. If you do put a song on the ipod, then take it off the computer, it will stay on your ipod as long as you don't delete it manually or sync it automatically. Once I had everything on my ipod the first time, I switched it to manual upload.

You do have to get a wall adapter or plug it into the computer, yes. I just get the adapter like that for all my electronics when I buy them, so I tend to think they come with the gadget automatically.

You do have to convert some stuff...Walmart is a perfect example. I just bought some songs from there and it was a pain in the ass...authorizing my computer and licenses and what not...So far, that's the only site I've found that wasn't directly ipod-compatible though. Even audible.com has their own format (.aa instead of .mp3) and *those* work on ipods, and not some other mp3 players.

Ipods play the default music formats, and there are some free converter programs to change others if you want. Oh, and wma files...(except the ones from walmart...) iTunes converts those for you..so if you have some wma files to put on, they will convert to be ipod-compatible.

I know MS has their new one out..the uh...Zeno? As far as I know, ipods are compatible with everything that those would be. Just because they're apple, doesn't mean they're ...you know, Macs.
Larianlarianelensar on February 16th, 2007 10:19 pm (UTC)
(And no offense to Mac owners!) It's just that Macs aren't as universal as PCs (usually)...but ipods aren't like that.
Jill aka Jo: Heroes- Woo Hoosireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 10:38 pm (UTC)
Jill aka Jo: Misc- Kitty Licksireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 10:37 pm (UTC)
Okay that is good to know. I think maybe my friend just didn't know what she was doing. My current MP3 player is like that... so I know not to hit sync.

I hate Walmart music. I actually bought a few songs and when my computer at work died and had to be replaced I couldn't listen to them anymore because they weren't on the original computer. I won't buy from them anymore. Ooh audible... that is my main concern. I mean I love music but lately I've wanted to hear a story. That is cool that iPod converts for you. That is a perk right there that makes me far more interested.
stardust_20stardust_20 on February 16th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
I have an iPod and I love it to death myself. I can't compare it to any other kind of MP3 player as I've never owned one, but my iPod does everything I need it to and it's not so expensive as you'd think.

People in general have bad or rather uninformed attitudes about Apple products. They can do absolutely anything a microsoft (or other) product can do. If you're considering iPods check out Apple's homepage. There are about 5 or 6 models of iPod (for various prices and with various features) and you don't have to get the biggest, most expensive one out there that has video capabilities, etc ... We have them all here (and more) because my hubby is a software developer and writes programs for iPods. :) (Hence my love of them I suppose). Check out his software if you like - www.zapptek.com - there's one called iSpeakit which is a text to speech converter where you can load a document on your ipod and have it read aloud to you. (Uber cool in my opinion).

I have a nano myself and adore it. It's 2GB - I'm not sure how much it costs but I believe it's under $200. The video ones are nice and we have one, but that's because we buy all the tv shows we watch from iTunes and then store them on it.

As for your other concerns - I don't mean to be rude but I'd suggest that your friend who has all the troubles with iPods is using them or her computer improperly. iPods do not need to be plugged in to your computer except to update (the wall charger works great), and they do not erase just because you don't have the songs on your computer any longer. When you plug in an iPod to update, all material that is new will be added to what currently exists, it does not erase what is already there unless you press 'delete' yourself. I know how they work rather intimately as I've spend many hours testing them - my husband does some work for Alpine Electronics of America fitting cars with iPod integration units and so we have to make sure that updates and TTS (text to speech) work properly.

As I said, I have no opinion on any other MP3 player, good or bad but I adore my iPod and I would heartily recommend it to anyone. :) Just make sure you do lots of research before you buy to make sure you're getting exactly what you need for the right price.
Jill aka Jo: Pretender- Slinkysireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
Well that seems to be the general consensus, about iPod being so great.

Well, I do admit I’m not an Apple fan, but that may just be a computer thing. I mean I have a brother and a cousin who work in programming and they’ll both say to stick with Microsoft over a Mac. Of course, that isn’t the point.

Okay I think it is uber cool that your hubby writes programs for iPod. I went to the zapptek website… I assume you have to pay for all those downloads? Can you just get your iPod with what you want rather than having to figure it all out yourself? I’m a little confused just because this isn’t my world at all.

See the people I’ve meet who have nanos tell me not to buy them because they’ve had nothing but trouble…. Mixed signals… I tell you. I do want something that is more than 2GB… maybe around 8 or 10. I don’t need the video capabilities… though the fact that I missed my third episode of Smallville is making me more inclined towards it… hmmmm….

Not rude at all. I love her but I do think she’s a bit technologically challenged.

When you plug in an iPod to update, all material that is new will be added to what currently exists
What does this mean? Programming updates? Or new songs/videos on your computer?

Thanks for the input.
Larianlarianelensar on February 16th, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
When you plug it into the computer, if there are software updates for the ipod itself, it will automatically do that. You can also set it to update the songs, etc automatically. I choose not to do that, so set mine to manual. But that's a choice you can make for yourself.
stardust_20stardust_20 on February 16th, 2007 10:55 pm (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure about the Zapptek stuff - I believe some of the downloads are free where you can do some trial use and then if you like it and want the full capabilities then you buy it. Don't quote me though - I listen when he babbles but he does all the technical work. I'm just the hired hand. :)

My nano is very new - I just got it in October, and it's wonderful. Perhaps some of the people you know with nanos have older versions? There are some problems with some of the older ones I believe. I used to have a mini but they don't sell them anymore.

As for the updating - there are 2 settings, automatic and manual. If you have it set to automatic then when you plug your ipod in it will automatically copy everything from your itunes library (it won't make doubles from what you already have, it will just add the new stuff). if you don't want to do it that way then you can choose manual so you click on whatever you want to be updated, so you can only change a few things then.

anything else you want to know about iPods, just ask. If you have any questions about the Zapptek software use the email address given. Michael answers all queries within 24-48 hours so you'll get whatever you need right away. :)
Jill aka Jo: Movies - Alice Wonderlandsireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
If you have it set to automatic then when you plug your ipod in it will automatically copy everything from your itunes library (it won't make doubles from what you already have, it will just add the new stuff).
Very interesting... so if I have it set to automatic will it erase things off the iPod or does it only go one way with the updating... is update and sync different?
Larian: iRu by melarianelensar on February 16th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)
*laughs* I'm babbling now...but I did have a Rio before, and I was way not impressed. Of course, this was a longish time ago, but I thought I'd be able to put songs directly on the player...and I couldn't. I had to burn to CD and play the Cd in the Rio. My fault for not researching more, but I swore I'd never get another mp3 player...EVER.

Then one of my friends started bragging on her ipod. I was hooked the minute I got mine.
Jill aka Jo: LFN- FacePalmsireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
AHHHHH! You guys are making me and my sister want and iPod but I'm still curious as to other PLAYERS! I mean, yes, the iPod sounds like a heavenly gift but I would like to know if the other players out there have the same capabilities because they are cheaper.

/not yet a pod person
dnebakanezer on February 16th, 2007 11:23 pm (UTC)
Well it seems you've heard all the raving compliments of the ipod and since that is what I have, I'll just be repeating what everyone else is saying. LOL I've never used any other kind and I love how easy itunes is, (of course I do have a mac so...) but I bought my dad an ipod for Christmas and everything seemed to work just fine on his PC laptop when I got him set up. *ipods rule, ipods rule!*
Jill aka Jo: LFN- Smilesireesanwar on February 16th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
*ipods rule, ipods rule!*
Not biased or anything? lol
dnebakanezer on February 16th, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
uhm huh what? moi? *g*
Bethanie Dollar: eyeschevellechik70 on February 17th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
haha. I don't have an MP3 player at all myself (except that my cell phone has iTunes), so I thought I'd read what everyone had to say...but I'm sensing a serious iPod bias here. :-p
Jill aka Jo: Pretender- Phone Callsireesanwar on February 20th, 2007 06:29 pm (UTC)
Noticed that did ya. I haven't had anyone tell me about another MP3 player yet but I guess that says something.