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February 08 2007 @ 04:10 pm
Since when is Valentine's Day religious?  
I just read an article that said DePere, Wisconsins school district voted to change Valentine's Day to Friendship Celebration Day! Apparently, this is because it is St. Valentine's Day and therefore religious. Now I ask you, since when is Valentine's Day religious?

The sheer stupidity of people. They talk of tolarance and yet if anything has a hint of Christianity to it they want it banned! It's just ludicrious. Just because you hear about something religious doesn't mean you'll struck "dumb" with religion, not that I think believing in God is stupid or dumb. It's just I know there are those who don't believe but I really think they haven't seen Valentine's Day as religious either.

The article also suggested (mockingly) some other name changes:
1. Saint Patrick's Day
2. Angel food cake
3. San Jose
4. Santa Claus
5. Santa Ana
6. Saint Bernard
7. Amaheim Angels

I mean you can't have things named for Saints and Angels... can you? Oh that does mean Sara Evan's song Saint & Angels is out too. Damn, next thing you'll know they'll be telling us wood was religious at one point so you can't have it... plastic houses it is!
Current Mood: annoyed
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(no subject) - (Anonymous) on February 9th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
Jill aka Jo: LFN- FacePalmsireesanwar on February 9th, 2007 12:38 am (UTC)
No soon you'll have your birthday on Green Appreciation Day... though that might be discriminating against the other colors of the spectrum. *thinking* Who knows? lol
H. J. Snape: sshghjsnapepm on February 9th, 2007 03:49 am (UTC)
That kind of thing drives me insane. I read they were trying to rename Christmas trees Holiday trees a few years ago. Why the heck does it bother people so much? If they don't want to have that sort of religious significance on things then they just shouldn't acknowledge it. People ignore the true meanings of holidays and such all the time, without getting all offended, thinking they're being converted or something.
Jill aka Jo: Comics- Stupiditysireesanwar on February 9th, 2007 08:27 pm (UTC)
I don't know! It is really annoying. I mean I don't get offended when I see a manora(sp?) and I'm not Jewish. I respect what they believe. I'm not going to tell them I'm offended by their decorations and they should take it down. They have the right to believe as they should!

Yes, people do ignore the true meaning of holidays. They don't care what the tradition or meaning is which fine whatever... but for those in the world who do care... they need to just deal.

A Jewish woman told me to say Merry Christmas to her this last Christmas. So I did. I liked her.
gaelbradygaelbrady on February 9th, 2007 11:41 am (UTC)
It's weird...a girl in my Public Speaking class did a speech on this last night, because unlike me, she *LOVES* Valentines Day. To me, it's just a couples holiday...and I am not part of a couple. Nothing good has happened to me on that day. I'm the girl in all black trying not to hate those who receive flowers, candy, singing telegrams....

Anyway, as with most "Christian" holidays, the origins of Valentines Day are derived from the Pagan holiday. I found this:

As early as the fourth century B.C., the Romans engaged in an annual young man's rite to passage to the God Lupercus. The names of the teenage women were placed in a box and drawn at random by adolescent men; thus, a man was assigned a woman companion for the duration of the year, after which another lottery was staged. After eight hundred years of this cruel practice, the early church fathers sought to end this practice... They found an answer in Valentine, a bishop who had been martyred some two hundred years earlier.

According to church tradition St. Valentine was a priest near Rome in about the year 270 A.D. At that time the Roman Emperor Claudius-II who had issued an edict forbidding marriage.
This was around when the heyday of Roman empire had almost come to an end. Lack of quality administrators led to frequent civil strife. Learning declined, taxation increased, and trade slumped to a low, precarious level. And the Gauls, Slavs, Huns, Turks and Mongolians from Northern Europe and Asian increased their pressure on the empire's boundaries. The empire was grown too large to be shielded from external aggression and internal chaos with existing forces. Thus more of capable men were required to be recruited as soldiers and officers. When Claudius became the emperor, he felt that married men were more emotionally attached to their families, and thus, will not make good soldiers. So to assure quality soldiers, he banned marriage.
Valentine, a bishop , seeing the trauma of young lovers, met them in a secret place, and joined them in the sacrament of matrimony. Claudius learned of this "friend of lovers," and had him arrested. The emperor, impressed with the young priest's dignity and conviction, attempted to convert him to the roman gods, to save him from certain execution. Valentine refused to recognize Roman Gods and even attempted to convert the emperor, knowing the consequences fully.
On February 24, 270, Valentine was executed.

"From your Valentine"
While Valentine was in prison awaiting his fate, he came in contact with his jailor, Asterius. The jailor had a blind daughter. Asterius requested him to heal his daughter. Through his faith he miraculously restored the sight of Asterius' daughter. Just before his execution, he asked for a pen and paper from his jailor, and signed a farewell message to her "From Your Valentine," a phrase that lived ever after.

Valentine thus become a Patron Saint, and spiritual overseer of an annual festival. The festival involved young Romans offering women they admired, and wished to court, handwritten greetings of affection on February 14. The greeting cards acquired St.Valentine's name.

The Valentine's Day card spread with Christianity, and is now celebrated all over the world. One of the earliest card was sent in 1415 by Charles, duke of Orleans, to his wife while he was a prisoner in the Tower of London. The card is now preserved in the British Museum.

Jill aka Jo: Outlander- Forever in Timesireesanwar on February 9th, 2007 09:58 pm (UTC)
Hmmm... actually despite what people say a lot of Christian holidays are only placed in relation to pagan holidays or celebrations but don't actually take their meanings or traditions from them.

Of course, there are Christian traditions that are similar to pagan traditions and were adopted or modified by the Christian/Catholic religion to mean something different which is basically what you said.

Still I have a different belief on things and the origins of everything including the pagan religions so we won't go there....

What I will say is that Valentine's Day is definately viewed as a kids and couples holiday. My nieces school won't even participate because they are afraid not all the kids will get a valentine. I remember this issue when I was in school and that was why they told us we had to bring a valentine for everyone. I think the sensativity issue has become stupid in some cases but with this you simply tell the kids to bring a valentine for all the kids in their class and it isn't an issue.
gaelbradygaelbrady on February 11th, 2007 03:08 pm (UTC)
We were always required to give valentines to everyone in my classes when in elementary school. It's really the only reason I got any.

*raises hand* Not the most popular person...ever.
Jill aka Jo: Misc- Donut and Coffee Perfectsireesanwar on February 13th, 2007 12:04 am (UTC)
We were too. That always gave them the interesting effort of going through and picking the valentine's for each person in my class. I rarely got ones that had anything other than my name and the name of the person who gave it if even that.
Jill aka Jo: Heroes- Woo Hoosireesanwar on February 14th, 2007 12:57 am (UTC)
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gaelbrady: Peter Cincottigaelbrady on February 15th, 2007 01:52 pm (UTC)
Awwww...sweetie, I so needed this on a day like yesterday. Didn't get to comment until now...so THANK YOU!!!!! ((HUGS))
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Tackle Hugsireesanwar on February 15th, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad you liked it. I just thought I should make you a valentine.
Ceciliecila81 on February 9th, 2007 01:54 pm (UTC)
Lol I agree, that is dumb! I have never thought of Valentines day in a religious way.
Jill aka Jo: LFN- FacePalmsireesanwar on February 9th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Me neither! I mean since when have Catholics gone to mass or Christians said.... well Jesus and Mary celebrated it.... I mean come on!

Anyways... I was thinking and San Francisco needs to be changed too because that is named after a Saint *rolling eyes*