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May 16 2014 @ 06:05 pm
Finales: Once Upon A Time, Arrow, & Castle  
Some of these finales are just so great it is crazy! So I haven't gotten caught up on everything but a few of the shows I've remained caught up on because they are some of my favorite shows.

Once Upon A Time
This season I've really started loving Regina. I want her to be happy. I want her to have a true love. The thing is that even if her heart is "tainted" with black because of the evil things she's done; she loves Henry and it can redeem her. I've been very happy that she and Emma have been working together.
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Okay, I wasn't sure what to expect with the promo for the finale what with them saying, "You'll never believe where we go now." The went back in time. I believe it but yeah different for this show. And right off the bat Emma screws something up so Snow and Charming don't fall in love. Typical right. But I really enjoyed Emma and Hook going back together and then having to get help from Rumpelstiltskin.

When Emma saved The Evil Queens prisoner I was annoyed but I understood. She's a hero and a hero can't leave someone to die even if they are messing with a timeline. So what happens when she brings this woman back? She splits Regina and Robin because the woman was Marian. I knew it before it hit. My sister and I kept saying, "Find out who she is?" What if Emma was releasing an evil on the future? But then she seemed so nice and then it hit me. Marian! Poor Regina. And when she said Emma is just like Snow, I had to agree. But Robin isn't dead and Emma didn't know. I really hope this doesn't send Regina off the deep end. And sadly, I want Marian gone.

As for Emma, her desire to return to her normal life in NY has been bugging me. She thought things were normal but she was dating a Flying Monkey who was also the Wizard of Oz but still... not normal.

Overall loved the episode and I love that Henry's belief in Regina has been fueling her good side. Please let her stay good!

Rumple! Dastardly. Man when he gave Belle his dagger I thought it was sweet but stupid. Belle isn't the strongest person. Snow White could take that dagger from her. Henry could! But then when Rumple revealed to Zelena that he'd basically tricked Belle. WOW. Bastard. Damn I love him.

Next year will be good! I'm excited about Elsa coming to town. Is her name even Elsa... well the Snow Queen. Winter is coming! LOL

Okay so I will admit this season wasn't fantastic. I feel like the trip to the alter for Kate and Rick has been strange to say the least. I did like that some of the stories from the past have been resolved in this season though I fear one really big one is going to spill into season 6. BTW, YAY Nathan got a 6th season! Go Captain.
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Okay so the previous episode when Castle and Beckett caught the Governor who was behind her mother's death. Finally! I wanted that smug bastard captured and when she figured everything out and got to arrest him. The vindication!

I actually loved Ryan and Esposito fighting over who would be the best man for Castle and as it turned out it is going to be best person as in Alexis. I think that is perfect.

Now to this convoluted episode. First, Kate Beckett is not stupid at all. She would never think a drive thru chapel in Las Vegas wasn't a real marriage. Now it is possible as a young adult she may have but it would have dawned on this woman she's become.

I could deal with that but really she gets pulled into a rather ridiculous case to get the signature for their divorce papers? But then I think it played into sending the wedding to the Hampton's house and then the ruination of THE DRESS. I was okay with that because I much preferred her mother's dress. It was gorgeous.

Now to Castle's "death". He is not dead. Either he was abducted and we will figure that all out next season or he was flung from the car and is going to be in the hospital. I'm thinking they are going to still try to find him and get them married. Man their guests just go through the ringer.

Still, didn't really like this finale.

Where to start. This whole season has been full of ups and downs. If Oliver isn't saving his friends then it is his family. And something I'd like to slap into him is that a hero isn't someone that doesn't kill but someone who with try not to unless given no choice. You can't just say, "Oh this totally dangerous and unstable person will be safe all locked up in this prison. Hope some act of God doesn't let him out." I mean you can't just kill in cold blood but I think making the decision to save people and take a life is more heroic than potentially putting people in danger in the future. But like always it depends on the circumstances.
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I'm very happy Oliver didn't go all vengeful and try to kill Slade just because Slade killed his mom. But someone who will execute someone like Slade did is highly dangerous and non-lethal force isn't the best option. That Oliver was able to take away his abilities and beat him was good. This instance made it possible to stop him without lethal force but sometimes someone so evil really needs to face death.

I loved and hated Oliver's way of outsmarting Slade. He pretended Felicity was the woman he loved the most so she could stick him with the cure. The thing is that Felicity almost bought into it and part of me believes that Oliver knows how she feels. Clearly Felicity is in love with Oliver and I'm in love with Oliver/Felicity. I want them together so bad. She is the only woman on the show I actually like.

I'm rather glad Sarah is going with the Assassins. I don't like her but at the same time she should be there for her father and sister. And when it ended with Det. Lance going down with what I would guess is a punctured lung... maybe something worse. I'm dreading this. I don't want a poor me Laurel again. I really loved seeing Det. Lance and Laurel after all the fighting talking about going to a meeting. It was like they were a Father-Daughter Duo fighting crime and taking names.

But can I just say, I ship OLIVER/FELICITY! Writer's chuck the ideas of Laurel and Oliver and go with Felicity. She's awesome and deserves a shot!

Malcolm coming to help Thea was nice but the guy is a psycho and now Thea is going with him and doesn't he know about Oliver? I don't want him influencing her. She is opinionated but with everyone lying to her she'd going to go to someone who is evil but tells her the truth. And yet part of me wants her to have her father. So annoying. I really hope she doesn't freak out on us.

And did Isobel die? If so then who does own Queen whatever it is called?
Careful reading comments. There are possible spoilers!
girlspell: let's playgirlspell on May 17th, 2014 01:24 am (UTC)
I don't usually watch either show, but I have seen more of Once Upon a Time. I like the idea of the snow queen coming (along with her sister) hm....was that a spoiler??
Jill aka Josireesanwar on May 17th, 2014 05:47 am (UTC)
Possibly but I'll warn people above... I like the idea of it too. Perfect timing too.
tracyj23: AOS - Maytracyj23 on May 18th, 2014 01:11 pm (UTC)
Castle. Seriously? I quit watching a whole season ago but the other day happened to be passing by ABC at 9:30 so I tuned in to see what the season finale looked like. Kate was seriously married to that idiot??? I thought it was all a pose in order to solve the case. Made no sense to me. The episode was absolutely AWFUL. The story was stupid, the acting crappy, the dialogue just worse than bad and the ending? Good god. They try to make a cliffhanger but all it is is just another "let's try to shock the audience" ... like we would buy it. Of course Castle isn't dead - Kate isn't stupid, she knows he has enemies. And really, they're dragging the whole wedding thing on again? Yeah, so glad I quit with this show. It should have ended after season 4. Nothing good left for it.

Arrow is a whole different story, though I do agree with you, I despise all of the women on the show except Felicity. I love Oliver though, with all of his faults, and realizing that every time he tries to do the "right" thing it ends up being the wrong thing. He's a great "superhero" to my mind. I love him and Diggle best of all. Was totally shocked when Moira was killed. I did not expect they'd actually kill someone. Well done that - good storytelling, it hit the audience right in the gut so we could feel Oliver and Thea's pain. Really good show. Looking forward to where it's going -- hopefully with less Laurel. I despise her all the time but mostly too the "woe is me" stuff.
Jill aka Jo: Arrow: Oliver and Felicitysireesanwar on May 21st, 2014 12:44 am (UTC)
Yes, I know you don't like Castle anymore. I have. And while this season wasn't fantastic I still like the show and I know that some shows just have bad seasons. Plus I will not stop watching Nathan. Just can't do it.

Though the finale. I'm ashamed for them. It was just so dumb. But I'm hoping to actually enjoy the return of the show in the fall. We'll see.

But I agree Arrow is a whole other story. It is just great. I don't even understand how I dislike half the cast but love the show. I do like Oliver, Diggle and Felicity. They are all my favorites though I'm a big Felicity fan. Hard not to be. She's pretty awesome. Got to respect a character who is pretty, smart and funny.

I was so stunned. The entire time Slade was talking I was thinking, here comes someone to save the day.... where are they? Then there was that moment of shock. But I think the best part was the sheer agony Thea and Oliver went through in that moment. It was so real.

Oh please, less Laurel. No more Sarah. And I don't want them to stick with the comic storylines. I want Felicity to be with Oliver. I think the sparks are going to fly there forever.
tracyj23tracyj23 on May 21st, 2014 02:41 pm (UTC)
It's not that I don't WANT to like Castle. I used to love it. Watch a couple of episodes of season 1 and 2 and then watch the more recent ones. The quality just isn't there anymore. Other than Ryan and Esposito (who weren't even in the 30 minutes I watched AT ALL), there's no fun and no chemistry between the characters. And the dialogue and writing is just awful. I'm sure the actors are still great but what do they have to work with? I would rather see any show go out on a high note - usually about 3 seasons is enough to tell their story and leave while its still good before you end up ashamed and wishing it would be better, rather than dragging on and on because you know, making money is more important than quality. That's where british tv rules. Short seasons, miniseries and everything is always superb.

Oh please, less Laurel. THIS! And definitely no more Sarah. I get that they're portraying Oliver as stuck between two sisters (and showing just how stupid he can be sometimes) but enough is enough!!! I want to see Oli and Felicity together too. :) But I do love the rest of the drama and how they CAN actually shock us with the character deaths and the things they go for. I like when I don't know what to expect - makes the show more exciting for me. Most TV is so darned predictable it's boring.
Jill aka Jo: Misc: All I Want Is Funsireesanwar on May 21st, 2014 10:08 pm (UTC)
Oh I know. But actually I think the formula British TV implements that is the best is at most 10 episodes. I mean I don't think American's would love that but it means there is a small window to tell the story and no filler episodes with a Ground Hog's Day theme, or some other stupid gimmick.

I think that was also what made the original Resurrection (The Returned) so good. They got into the story. Used each episode to tell you each characters story and progress the arch until the final episode. There was nothing wasted.

See and I didn't feel like he was stuck. I felt like they were stuck. Oliver seems to have little trouble moving between Sarah and Laurel which I find a little disturbing. And every time he's with one of them I groan. FELICITY!

I do agree. The show is unpredictable most of the time with is awesome. Far too many show are carbon copies and it is just too much.
tracyj23: AOS - Maytracyj23 on May 23rd, 2014 06:16 pm (UTC)
But actually I think the formula British TV implements that is the best is at most 10 episodes. I mean I don't think American's would love that but it means there is a small window to tell the story and no filler episodes with a Ground Hog's Day theme, or some other stupid gimmick.

Agreed! But thats because north americans are generally about quantity, not quality. More's the pity. I'd rather have less and want to rewatch because I enjoyed it, rather than have things drag on where there's maybe 5 minutes of good stuff in an episode and the rest is filler.

I feel like Oliver/Laurel/Sarah is just an icky combination. I get that it shows how shallow he was 5 years earlier with him sleeping with both of them, but I think he should be acting more mature and making a decision between them, or neither of them. It just seems wrong that he's still stuck and can't decide which sister he wants.
Jill aka Jo: Arrow: Oliver and Felicitysireesanwar on May 24th, 2014 12:07 am (UTC)
It is so true. I think that was why I liked Resurrection too. It was only 8 episodes like the original and while there was an episode that seemed a little filler-ish, overall they were moving through the story pretty well.

Yes! Pick to be alone! Oliver needs to be by himself for a while. Laurel is too much drama and Sarah is too much drama with Laurel. Enough is enough. Be their friend. Stick around to help them but enough.
tracyj23: AOS - May/Coulson sadtracyj23 on May 24th, 2014 03:44 pm (UTC)
Yes. This exactly. Laurel and Sarah act like they're in junior high still. Too much teen angst. But then it is the CW network and they're known for marketing to teens and early twenty-somethings so they have to have that stuff in there to appeal to them.
Phoenixburned_phoenix on May 19th, 2014 07:56 am (UTC)
Castle probably wakes up somewhere with amnesia so we can do the whole thing all over again with the will they, won't they... I'm not really into it anymore. Best part of the show is still Ryan and Esposito

I completely agree with you about Felicity. I mean, it was pretty obvious why he brought her to the house and told her there, but I would have expected him to warn her! That was just cruel.

I don't want Lance to go, he's one of my favorite parts of the show! And as much as I liked Katie as Ruby, Laurel is starting to REALLY grate on my nerves.

Jill aka Jo: Fringe: Alta Oliviasireesanwar on May 21st, 2014 06:59 pm (UTC)
That would not surprise me at all. And it would be so overdone.

I did wonder if that Spy guy that never seems to die went after Castle or if maybe his father is faking his death for some reason. No idea.

I think Oliver wanted it to seem very real and her reaction was honest. It was a little sad and I'm hoping next season he does something about it. Clearly Felicity is in love with him. And remember with that guy who will be playing Flash was around Oliver was annoyed about it.

Who is Ruby?

Oh Laurel is driving me nuts.
Phoenixburned_phoenix on May 22nd, 2014 08:24 am (UTC)
That it would be. :D

Yeah, but it was kinda cruel of him, honest reaction or not, because he KNOWS and he basically told her he is screwing every other woman but her because he has feelings for her. Great reasoning, but still. He told her he has feelings!
I was hoping Felicity would get a real chance with Flash, because I don't like her being strung along like that. Like, I won't touch you but you can't let anyone else touch you because I have feelings. What?! :D

Oops, the demon lady on Supernatural who was first played by Katie.

It's like Laurel is happy putting herself in a victim mindset all the time and expects everyone to feel for her even if she is not the victim. Gah. :D
Jill aka Jo: Arrow: Oliver and Felicitysireesanwar on May 23rd, 2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
Yes, that was annoying but at the same time, I'm not sure Oliver actually realized what Felicity would be thinking. Part of me thinks Oliver doesn't get it or he thinks being with her could ruin everything. I don't know. I just want them to get together.

I wouldn't mind Felicity getting a real chance with someone but I guess that isn't going to happen.