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June 11 2007 @ 11:36 am
What is a meme?  
Okay I thought I knew. I thought a meme was those questions that circle through friends lists and people answer them. Then everyone lately has been doing those "memes" that are questions they answer on a site to find out what color they are or what nationality they shouldn't date. I'm completely confused as is my tag list.

Poll #1001297 I'm confused.

What is a meme?

A series of questions you type answers to
4(66.7%)
A small quiz that tells you who your (insert your favorite show) boyfriend/girlfriend is.
2(33.3%)
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Wivecawive on June 11th, 2007 07:21 pm (UTC)
ehhh I thought they where both meme's?!

*iz confused*
Wivecawive on June 11th, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC)
*iz so confused that I forgot to hug you* LMAO

HUGS!!!!
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Lornesireesanwar on June 11th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
I can't fathom the idea of them being the same thing cause they aren't. I don't like it. Too confusing.

*hugs*
You made me laugh with your comments.
Wiveca: Lorne: Wisheswive on June 12th, 2007 04:43 pm (UTC)
See, I told you they where the same!
Now stop confusing me. LMAO!

*hugs you silly*
stardust_20: Nikolas - excited!stardust_20 on June 11th, 2007 07:59 pm (UTC)
The word 'meme' means same in french - that much I know since I studied french for way too many years (darned bilingual country!). How that translates to 'a series of questions you answer' or 'a small quiz that tells you who your favourite show bf/gf is' I have no idea.

I only know I've seen the question thing that we all circulate around our flists referred to as 'memes' so I continue the tradition (figuring i'm just slow and haven't learned enough internet jargon yet).

Thanks for asking though - very interesting question. I hope you're having a good day. :)
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Jack headdesksireesanwar on June 11th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
I'm getting that they both are but I don't buy it. They are two different things so therefore should be different.

Thanks.
Annabellaannabella on June 11th, 2007 08:01 pm (UTC)
confusingly - they're both memes! *lol*
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Jack headdesksireesanwar on June 11th, 2007 10:54 pm (UTC)
No they can't be they are different. *pulls hair* I don't get it how can two things that are different in nature be the same.
Annabellaannabella on June 12th, 2007 02:06 am (UTC)
They're different because of HOW you're viewing them. They do have things in common yes?
Both ask questions
both end up in/on LJ/MySpace/etc
both are intended to tell others something about the taker of the meme (be it questions they read the answers to, or the result of a tabulation of your answers to questions)

Their forms may be VERY different, but their intention is similar.
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Rodney Eeksireesanwar on June 12th, 2007 07:42 pm (UTC)
But see I see it as one is answering questions about yourself and the other is just putting your name into things and getting silly answers. Oh well.
Eaiva le Fay: SGA - How much more out can we get?eaivalefay on June 11th, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
They're both memes, I think. Memes just seem to be those things/quizzes/surveys that circle flists, and they come in many forms.

This is interesting:
meme (mēm)
n.

A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.

Or a strictly fandom definition:
meme—/meem/ (rhymes with "gene") A meme is Richard Dawkins's term for an idea considered as a replicator, especially with the connotation that memes parasitise people into propagating them much as viruses do. Within the fandom, a meme is an "idea that is shared and passed from blog to blog, like a question posted in one blog and answered in many other blogs." (definition from The Meme List)

I hope this helps. I certainly found it interesting. :)
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Jack headdesksireesanwar on June 11th, 2007 10:56 pm (UTC)
Okay it was interesting but I'm not sure it helped because to me it sounds like the list of questions we answer about ourselves... so confused.
Eaiva le Fayeaivalefay on June 12th, 2007 04:23 am (UTC)
Well...both are memes. And I guess other things can be memes. Whatever makes a...um, chain across LJ or emails. Like chain mail and such.

Whatever one person posts and another ten then post in their journal, and then another for each of those ten journals... It creates the "ripple effect," or a chain effect. That's, I'm guessing, what a meme is, despite whatever material may actually be contained within the meme.
Jill aka Josireesanwar on June 12th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah I guess but it is so weird to me.
Lori-Amanda: here comes trouble atlantis stylelovetruthbella on June 11th, 2007 10:05 pm (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
I do believe they are both meme's
Jill aka Jo: Gate- Jack headdesksireesanwar on June 11th, 2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
But their different! *whines*

I know I know... no whining... but they are different.. I don't like general things. It's confuses us simple minds.
halcyondayz: michael HL blue skyhalcyondayz on June 12th, 2007 03:15 pm (UTC)
Perhaps it would help to think of memes as a mode of cultural transmission and all these little quizzes are examples of how ideas are transmitted. For instance, one child thinks up a kewl rhyme to skip to and it catches the imagination of the others and it spreads until it becomes common across the state, the country etc but there is no easily identifiable source.
youtube and other sites perform a similar function as people pass kewl video clips around and then suddenly, the 'Bus Uncle' becomes famous. Just Internet phenomena :)
d: Daisy *sigh* (lf)nebakanezer on June 12th, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
I looked it up and it IS totally confusing! There appears to be very little on the origin of 'meme' in terms of blogs and such. (Try looking up the history of the tooth fairy! There is no clear cut origin. It's maddening!!) Anyway, I see why you are not buying that they are the same, but it isn't the content, it is the fact that they both 'act' like viruses and spread from one lj to another, mutating as they go, at least that is what I understand from all my research. :)

Forgot to site my sources. Oops!

meme: (pron. 'meem') A contagious idea that replicates like a virus, passed on from mind to mind. Memes function the same way genes and viruses do, propagating through communication networks and face-to-face contact between people. The root of the word "memetics," a field of study which postulates that the meme is the basic unit of cultural evolution. Examples of memes include melodies, icons, fashion statements and phrases.

MEME is short for:
Multitasking Extensible Messaging Environment

Not sure that is anything to do with the kind we are talking about. :)

meme
[fr. Gk mimema; shortening of mimeme]
an idea which spreads (coined by Richard Dawkins, in The Selfish Gene)

4 : in blogspeak, an idea that is spread from blog to blog

5 : an internet information generator, especially of random or contentless information

(Etymology : meme : derived from the Greek mimëma, 'something imitated', by Richard Dawkins in 1976)



When I first started reading fanfic I had to look up why proof readers were called betas. Do you know? ;)
Jill aka Josireesanwar on June 13th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
No what?
d: Ronon 'srsly?' (c)nebakanezer on June 13th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
As in the 2nd letter of the alphabet, a 'beta' is the 2nd person to see the story after the writer. :)
lemonitsa: Ronon-Smirkylemonitsa on June 13th, 2007 03:01 am (UTC)
oooooooooooooohhhhh!

*smiles and is happy she doesn't need to ever ask anyone!*
Jill aka Jo: LFN- FacePalmsireesanwar on June 13th, 2007 05:21 pm (UTC)
You're right. 2nd letter of the Greek Alphabet. I never put those together but that makes perfect sense. Thanks for helping me make that connection.
lemonitsa: Ronon-begginglemonitsa on June 13th, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
To me, a 'meme' was always anything that someone posted and then everyone else decided to post as well, either with their own answers or whatever. Never thought whether it's questions ie. 1-20 or multiple choice, but the actual copying and passing along.

memou'mai= I imitate
me'mese= imitation (to imitate)

I hate Grammar. I hate Grammar for Ancient Greek even more. I'll stick to my modern, so much easier. :)